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and then, of course, there is a debt ceiling vote. now you hear a lot of republicans making noises about backing down from the debt ceiling fight. it is interesting by the way, i know we're not here to talk about that. it is interesting how the conventional wisdom has shifted on that. >> jennifer: quickly too. >> so quickly. just another sign of the shifting sands. it all hinges on how public opinion turns. and you know, is the president going to go out on the stump? is he going to go out and barnstorm the country for his proposals? how much political capital is he going to put into it? if he really builds up public support for the proposals and public support grows and if they feel pressure, he'll bring a vote. >> >> jennifer: just to take you back to that -- not the fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling issue that the republicans do seem to be going soft on, i do think one of the reasons why they went so soft is because major traditionally republican lobbying groups were advocating like the chamber of commerce came out strongly saying this
and then, of course, there is a debt ceiling vote. now you hear a lot of republicans making noises about backing down from the debt ceiling fight. it is interesting by the way, i know we're not here to talk about that. it is interesting how the conventional wisdom has shifted on that. >> jennifer: quickly too. >> so quickly. just another sign of the shifting sands. it all hinges on how public opinion turns. and you know, is the president going to go out on the stump? is he going to...
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ceiling issue. i know you have said you're not negotiating that. your administration has ruled out the various ideas that have been out there, the 14th amendment that just this morning house -- one of the house democratic leaders asked you to use the 14th amendment, and even said sometimes that's what it takes. he brought up the emancipation probleming clamation. he compared the debt ceiling to that. are you considering a plan b? if not, why not? >> well, chuck, the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. so there's a very simple solution to this. congress authorizes us to pay our bills. if the house and the senate want to give me the authority so that they don't have to take these tough votes, if they want to put the responsibility on me to raise the debt ceiling, i'm happy to take it. mitch mcconnell had a proposal like that last year, and i'm happy to accept it, but if they want to keep this responsibility, then they need to go ahead and get it done. the
ceiling issue. i know you have said you're not negotiating that. your administration has ruled out the various ideas that have been out there, the 14th amendment that just this morning house -- one of the house democratic leaders asked you to use the 14th amendment, and even said sometimes that's what it takes. he brought up the emancipation probleming clamation. he compared the debt ceiling to that. are you considering a plan b? if not, why not? >> well, chuck, the issue here is whether...
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the issue is not the debt ceiling. the issue is the fundamental core problems of the country and the inability of our congressional leaders and our political class to actually solve them. >> neil: how is it that you are home to some of best? >> they are good for you. >> neil: ron shaich, just a message from wall street. okay. did you hear the one about teacher did not like her students and thoughts about a phobia that is now a lawsuit. we're going try this. what do we want to build next ? that's the question. every day. when you have the most advanced tools, you want to make something with them. something that helps. helps safeguard our shores. helps someone see through a wall of fire. helps those nowhere near the right doctor stand a chance. ... feeling in the extremities ? no. technology can do that. who can tell me the third life cycle stage of the frog ? it can take a sick kid to school. nathan. tadpole. and help ensure a constant supply of clean energy. the things we build share one belief. that the world's bigges
the issue is not the debt ceiling. the issue is the fundamental core problems of the country and the inability of our congressional leaders and our political class to actually solve them. >> neil: how is it that you are home to some of best? >> they are good for you. >> neil: ron shaich, just a message from wall street. okay. did you hear the one about teacher did not like her students and thoughts about a phobia that is now a lawsuit. we're going try this. what do we want to...
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plus how investors should handle the noise out of washington on the debt ceiling issue. >>> then the ceo of the company that owns the stock exchange. up next with jeffrey sprecher. he will join me exclusively. >>> also facebook has been red hot lately. tomorrow there's a big announcement. could it disappoint or ignite a bigger rally for the stock? coming up. [ male announcer ] you're not the type of person who sets goals and only hopes to achieve them. so you'll be happy to know that when it comes to your investment goals, northern trust uses award-winning expertise to lead you through an interactive investment process. adding precision to your portfolio construction by directly matching your assets and your risk preferences against your unique life goals. we call it goals driven investing. your life has a sense of purpose. shouldn't your investments? ♪ expertise matters. find it at northern trust. office superstore ink retailer in america. now get $6 back in staples rewards for every ink cartridge you recycle when you spend $50 on hp ink. staples. that was easy. >>> welcome back.
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it was the sole solution to the debt ceiling in august of 2011 in the u.s. downgraded last time. so all these issues are important and it's very important that congress take necessary action to raise the debt ceiling to avoid a situation where government doesn't pay its bills. >> a number of people have expressed concern about how much of the challenges actually were addressed in a deal, it certainly went part way, but leaves a number of issues still on the table. would you care to raise that as an additional fiscal cliff that is facing us? would you think that it's not as concerning as it was when you raise that term initially? >> as i said the fiscal cliff, if it is allowed to take place, it probably would have traded a recession this year. a good bit of that has been addressed. nevertheless, we still have fairly restrictive fiscal policies now. it is estimated that federal fiscal policy will we have quite a bit to do to address the their long-term sustainability issues. there's a lot more work to do. let me be very clear about that. it's going to be a long haul and it's not go
it was the sole solution to the debt ceiling in august of 2011 in the u.s. downgraded last time. so all these issues are important and it's very important that congress take necessary action to raise the debt ceiling to avoid a situation where government doesn't pay its bills. >> a number of people have expressed concern about how much of the challenges actually were addressed in a deal, it certainly went part way, but leaves a number of issues still on the table. would you care to raise...
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ceiling. >> the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. >> taking a stand on the one-month anniversary of the newtown massacre. the families speak out. >> this is a promise to turn the conversation into actions. things must change. this is the time. this is a promise we make to our precious children because each child, every human life, is filled with promise, and though we continue to be filled with unbearable pain, we choose love, belief, and hope instead of anger. >> calling them out. tough words from former secretary of state general colin powell for his fellow republicans on race. >> there's also a dark vein of intolerance many some parts of the party. >> the end of the longest war and the man president obama has nominated to wind it down coming up. retired general stanley mcchrystal on chuck hagel. the exit strategy from afghanistan and his own career. >>> plus, show stopper. president clinton he should the standing ovation with his surprise appearance on "lincoln" at the golden globes. >> in "lincoln" w
ceiling. >> the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. >> taking a stand on the one-month anniversary of the newtown massacre. the families speak out. >> this is a promise to turn the conversation into actions. things must change. this is the time. this is a promise we make to our precious children because each child, every human life, is filled with promise, and though we continue to be filled with unbearable pain, we choose love,...
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debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more. because this is about paying your bills. >> i do hope speaker boehner was listening. joining us in the studio is jonathan capehart from "the washington post" and in los angeles democratic strategist and nyu professor bob shrum. welcome to you both. professor shrum, we reached the debt ceiling two weeks ago today. the treasury department is giving us a few weeks of maneuvering room before we begin to default. and yet you have people like the heritage foundation saying today, default is not at issue. how many conservatives truly believe their tactics pose no risk whatsoever to the economy, particularly given what happened the last time they took the debt ceiling hostage? >> look, what heritage put out today is drivel. a transparent attempt -- >> drivel, this is the considered view of an important organization. >> yeah, whose president is jim demint. i don't take it all
debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more. because this is about paying your bills. >> i do hope speaker boehner was listening. joining us in the studio is jonathan capehart from "the washington post" and in los angeles democratic strategist and nyu professor bob shrum. welcome to you both. professor shrum, we reached the debt ceiling two weeks...
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of late, even getting -- when it comes to issues like bypassing the debt ceiling -- on congress's behalf. >> democrats are urging the president to use executive order to say congress, i don't node to you raise the debt ceiling, i am going to do it on my own. i want everybody to know,utive order -- high is not the first president and won't be the last to use executive order. frankslinrosis velt passed 37 executive orders and clinton and reagan did 350-plus. i am talking about policy issues of significant magnitude that need to have a full public vetting. the american people need tock engaged in the process. we need hearing on the matter ogun control, specifically. and we really need to talk about mental health and how we as a society are not embracing people with mental health issues. that's a bigger conversation, i know, neil. >> neil: thank you for indulging all of this breaking news and being on top of it. we told you about the mulvaney amendment, matching dollar for dollar, any aide they are getting in like-minded cuts from discretionary spending. that was defeated, as expected on the
of late, even getting -- when it comes to issues like bypassing the debt ceiling -- on congress's behalf. >> democrats are urging the president to use executive order to say congress, i don't node to you raise the debt ceiling, i am going to do it on my own. i want everybody to know,utive order -- high is not the first president and won't be the last to use executive order. frankslinrosis velt passed 37 executive orders and clinton and reagan did 350-plus. i am talking about policy issues...
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of who is what gets paid in a debt ceiling impasse, a shut town of government, would be entirely up to the president of the united states period. if congress does fail to lift the debt ceiling by late february, the treasury department has to cover about 450 billion-dollars. in obligations. about 450 billion. revenue at that point, $2 77 billion. essentially the government will be able to cover about 60% of its bill. 60% of its bills, treasury would make the interest payments on the debt that could is about 40 billion. okay? just for debt, we could sll pay up social security benefits, they account for about 61 billion-dollars. and we could still pay veterans and our military, that would cost $17 billion for the military and for veterans. that is still only $118 billion of that $2 17. $118 billion. i want to ask you. why would anyone not be appalled by a president saying what he just did? implying there would not be adequate money to take care of social security obligations during that period. imply its would not be up to him to make a decision, which would prevent our social security
of who is what gets paid in a debt ceiling impasse, a shut town of government, would be entirely up to the president of the united states period. if congress does fail to lift the debt ceiling by late february, the treasury department has to cover about 450 billion-dollars. in obligations. about 450 billion. revenue at that point, $2 77 billion. essentially the government will be able to cover about 60% of its bill. 60% of its bills, treasury would make the interest payments on the debt that...
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issue number one is raising the debt ceiling which allows you to pay the bills we're already voted for. and that was already voted for. maybe they shouldn't have been, but already was voted for. not to raise the debt ceiling would cause the government to default on its debts interest rates would spike and destroy economy. david: i can't allow that to go by congressman, because there is no guaranty we would default as a result of reaching that point. i mean we have enough revenue coming in to pay off our bondholders. >> well, depends what you mean by default. if you paid bondholders at expense of not paying social security checks or salaries of military or salaries of the air traffic controllers the fact is we have 40% difference between the income coming in and the expenditures that were voted. that would be regarded by the financial markets as a default. david: it would require, more cut backs in spending. there is no question it would cause enormous, as you point out quite rightly, 40 cents of every dollar that we spend is borrowed. that is part of the problem. >> that's right. david
issue number one is raising the debt ceiling which allows you to pay the bills we're already voted for. and that was already voted for. maybe they shouldn't have been, but already was voted for. not to raise the debt ceiling would cause the government to default on its debts interest rates would spike and destroy economy. david: i can't allow that to go by congressman, because there is no guaranty we would default as a result of reaching that point. i mean we have enough revenue coming in to...
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on the debt ceiling issue it is dramatically different. and on top of that you also have two other issues where these two sides will be going head to head. again, the issue of sequester. and obviously, the continuing resolution, basically the way the government is paid for going forward. so we've got a busy couple months ahead of us. >> we do. hey, peter, we have to take note that we're going to see you in a little more dressed down, little more casual sigde of you at the bottom of the hour for office politics. for anyone who wants to see what goes on behind the scenes with you, tune in. are you nervous? >> i think i have a pretty good sense how this is going to go. i was more nervous when you came here-p but i know you took good care of me. it will be all right. >> it will. it will be interesting for folks who stick around. thanks, peter. >> thanks, alex. >> carol lee and associate politics editor for roll call david drucker. welcome to both of you. >> good morning. >> carol, i'll speak with you first. as the president says, he's not goin
on the debt ceiling issue it is dramatically different. and on top of that you also have two other issues where these two sides will be going head to head. again, the issue of sequester. and obviously, the continuing resolution, basically the way the government is paid for going forward. so we've got a busy couple months ahead of us. >> we do. hey, peter, we have to take note that we're going to see you in a little more dressed down, little more casual sigde of you at the bottom of the...
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at hand, unless the nation debt ceiling is raised a lot of programs are starved of spending by default, but that does not mean, want to be clear, that we default even if the president today all but said otherwise. >> threat of default hurts our economy, it is hurting our economy as we speak. neil: well, we shouldn't be saying things that are not true, the president is not clear, and neither is mainstream media, u.s. government does not default because debt ceiling is not increased and soon, government does not stop taking taxes out of your check. even if we go to the brink, they will keep taking the taxes out. tax revenue keeps coming in what washington has to decide is prioritizing what money goes out and where? what do you think is top, top priority. the bill to pay before all others? like if we were in same boat, same emergency we would pay the mortgage or rent first to keep a roof over our head, we prioritize, so does uncle sam like we know we might as well toss our home good-bye. the government knows a default comes only, when obligations to spreadtorcreditors or investorst paid.
at hand, unless the nation debt ceiling is raised a lot of programs are starved of spending by default, but that does not mean, want to be clear, that we default even if the president today all but said otherwise. >> threat of default hurts our economy, it is hurting our economy as we speak. neil: well, we shouldn't be saying things that are not true, the president is not clear, and neither is mainstream media, u.s. government does not default because debt ceiling is not increased and...
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it enables constant debt ceiling issues into the future. >> yeah. it's going to coincide with the debate in washington. thanks for helping us tap us. one last note about e-bay. overall pretty good although there was some expectations that the numbers could have been even better given the overall growth trends in mobile and what pay pal did. the ceo will be on cnbc later on this afternoon. as we hit noon let's get back to headquarters. scott wapner and the "fast money" halftime. >>> carl, thanks so much. welcome to the halftime show. four hours to go until the close. here's where we stan right now on the street. the dow is just about at the highs of the day, up six out of the past seven days. disregard what we're shearing. we're talking about the market because it's higher today and here's what we're following on halftime. banking on the financials. more earnings results are in the books. last year's darlings running out of gas or taking a breath? inside intel the stock is up 8% over the past month. what's the play right now ahead of today's numbers.
it enables constant debt ceiling issues into the future. >> yeah. it's going to coincide with the debate in washington. thanks for helping us tap us. one last note about e-bay. overall pretty good although there was some expectations that the numbers could have been even better given the overall growth trends in mobile and what pay pal did. the ceo will be on cnbc later on this afternoon. as we hit noon let's get back to headquarters. scott wapner and the "fast money" halftime....
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because we take it a whole lot -- we spend a whole lot more money than we take in, the debt ceiling become as real issue pd at government has to stop spending about $100 billion a month. that means the government will have to lay off people and that will mean more unemployment and more pain for people. it also means the government won't be able to pay all 6 it bills and it may stop sending money to the businesses in the united states. some of whom could go bankruptcy because of it. >> critics have said you can list out all of the things that won't get paid respect but in the end it has a massive ripple effect. and yet the house speaker said yesterday the consequences of failing to increase the debt ceiling are real, but so, too, are the consequences of allowing our spending problem to go unresolved. so i think a lot of people are tormented over this. they agree with both sides. yes, we can't spend, no, we can't default, but who does big business see this? >> big business is pretty clear. i've spoken to a lot of ceos. they don't want to have the debt ceiling be the problem. they think that
because we take it a whole lot -- we spend a whole lot more money than we take in, the debt ceiling become as real issue pd at government has to stop spending about $100 billion a month. that means the government will have to lay off people and that will mean more unemployment and more pain for people. it also means the government won't be able to pay all 6 it bills and it may stop sending money to the businesses in the united states. some of whom could go bankruptcy because of it. >>...
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and not because of self-imposed crisis on a debt ceiling but we will be out of money. that is what the republicans are trying to avert. the president is playing this likebe a demagogue notto pretend we don't have a debt issue. we do. that is hanging above us and what will destroy the credit rating in the end. not a crisis we create and then get around as we have in the past. but a real one of a country that cannot pay its debt anymore. which is where we are headed. >> bret: next up is the u.s. getting involved in a another war on terror in mali? b or best-ever meatloaf. go to campbellskitchen.com for recipes, plus a valuable coupon. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. to help protect your eye health as you age... would you take it? well, there is. [ male announcer ] it's called ocuvite. a vitamin totally dedicated to your eyes, from the eye care experts at bausch + lomb. as you age, eyes can lose vital nutrients. ocuvite helps replenish key eye nutrients. ocuvite has a unique formula not found in your multivitamin to help protect your eye health. now that's a pi
and not because of self-imposed crisis on a debt ceiling but we will be out of money. that is what the republicans are trying to avert. the president is playing this likebe a demagogue notto pretend we don't have a debt issue. we do. that is hanging above us and what will destroy the credit rating in the end. not a crisis we create and then get around as we have in the past. but a real one of a country that cannot pay its debt anymore. which is where we are headed. >> bret: next up is the...
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but we can't move beyond the debt ceiling issue. i knew that would be a stopper, a game stopper. so we have to address that. now, the conditions exist that there can be a grand compromise that will move the economy forward or we can just go into free fall. for example, the last negotiation on the debt ceiling, well, the president, i thought, gave more than he should have given, but nonetheless, he did that. now the onus is on the rps to come to the table. because, see, what has happened is, tax cuts are essentially -- tax increases are off the table. and we got revenue from that. not enough that we needed, but that's off the table. and that was a big issue for the republicans. >> danny, let's move on. let's talk about the possibility of a government shutdown. the president seemed to indicate that it was, first of all, the republicans' responsibility. that they were going to take the onus, the responsibility for this, and that it was potentially something that he was willing to allow happen, because he felt that most people will blame the republicans. if the government shuts down,
but we can't move beyond the debt ceiling issue. i knew that would be a stopper, a game stopper. so we have to address that. now, the conditions exist that there can be a grand compromise that will move the economy forward or we can just go into free fall. for example, the last negotiation on the debt ceiling, well, the president, i thought, gave more than he should have given, but nonetheless, he did that. now the onus is on the rps to come to the table. because, see, what has happened is, tax...
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because i don't think the debt ceiling issue should become such a partisan issue. and i just appeal to the republicans who are having this retreat to realize that they should not place us in that kind of jeopardy. so there will be a hearing. we're going to work on witnesses today, settle them, and i hope the chairman and i will be resolving who will be the witnesses. they get the choice, the majority, but in this case i think there will be consternation as to who they pick and our choice. host: ok, all right. guest: we'll have one witness out of four. host: could it be secretary geithner? guest: no. host: do you think they'll call on him, the republicans? guest: no. host: tony, olive branch, mississippi. republican. hi, tony. caller: good morning. how you doing, senator? guest: where is olive branch? caller: it's down across the street from memphis, tennessee -- mississippi. guest: i've been across the bridge there. host: what's your question or comment? caller: my deal is when you talk about congress and everybody is looking at discretionary spending, i beg it dif
because i don't think the debt ceiling issue should become such a partisan issue. and i just appeal to the republicans who are having this retreat to realize that they should not place us in that kind of jeopardy. so there will be a hearing. we're going to work on witnesses today, settle them, and i hope the chairman and i will be resolving who will be the witnesses. they get the choice, the majority, but in this case i think there will be consternation as to who they pick and our choice. host:...
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ceiling issue. your administration has ruled out the various ideas that have been out this. this morning, one of the house democratic leaders asked you to use the 14th amendment. he compared the debt ceiling to that. are you considering a plan "b." and if not, why not? >> well, chuck, the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. and, so, there's a very simple solution to this. congress authorizes us. to pay our bills. now, if the house and the senate want to give me the authority so they they don't have to take these tough votes, if they want to put the responsibility on me to raise the debt ceiling, i'm happy to take it. mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate had a proposal like that last year and i'm happy to accept it. but, if they want to keep this responsibility, then they need to go ahead and get it done. and, you know, there are no magic tricks here, there are no loopholes. there are no -- you know, easy outs. this is a matter of congres
ceiling issue. your administration has ruled out the various ideas that have been out this. this morning, one of the house democratic leaders asked you to use the 14th amendment. he compared the debt ceiling to that. are you considering a plan "b." and if not, why not? >> well, chuck, the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. and, so, there's a very simple solution to this. congress authorizes us. to pay our bills. now, if the house...
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should we use the debt ceiling. should we not use the debt ceiling and to punt on these issues. if one members of congress are back here working and two, they were working on fixing problems we know exist. our deficits are too large. we're borrowing too much. they could actually put in place a plan that would gradually deal with these problems. you lift the debt ceiling because you have resolved what is standing in the way. must be a smarter way to approach this. tracy: i get what you're saying. you need some sort of litmus and some sort of bar. but at the same time the markets moved on from this. if they were that concerned we would be down more than 20 points today. we still have a pretty darn good credit rating even though moody's keeps threatening to drop it. they threatened before. if we were in such dire straits, i think you would be feeling it in other places and really aside from us blow harding about it on the news all the time. i'm not sure anybody cares. >> well, that is a great point. markets are reading a lot of different tea leaves and have a lot of different conce
should we use the debt ceiling. should we not use the debt ceiling and to punt on these issues. if one members of congress are back here working and two, they were working on fixing problems we know exist. our deficits are too large. we're borrowing too much. they could actually put in place a plan that would gradually deal with these problems. you lift the debt ceiling because you have resolved what is standing in the way. must be a smarter way to approach this. tracy: i get what you're...
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i think we should, we should extend be not end the debt ceiling issue. we should just set it aside for a considerable period of time. we should tackle sequestration, and we have to do that in the next six weeks. so i'm hopeful that we don't drag this out as some people are saying. b and then move on to a serious discussion of tax reform. and entitlement issues. so i see it in a sense the opposite way. i say let's get this done, the sequestration part and the debt ceiling, in the next six weeks and then move on. those who are saying let's do it dribble by dribble, they're the ones who would be undermining the effort to sit down and have a serious discussion of tax reform in the entitlements. >> we've got about two minutes left. francine. >> specific question about, um, itemized deductions. what's your thought on having a cap on itemized deductions but people can use it for whatever they want? they can use it for mortgage or charitable or whatever. >> i think the problem with a cap is that it has too serious a consequence especially for charitable contribu
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at the end of 2011 the last time we had a debt ceiling issue we saw bill rates for four week bills and three-month bills start to move up. today we had a one-month bill auction, trading on at five basis points and the auction went off at 9.5 basis points and many are attributing to anxieties and rule 2a7 from the s.e.c. which gives you rules on what kind of time frames can you have with respect to holding in the money funds and a little bit of selling today may be from that group as well. >> anxiety over the debt ceiling crisis? >> exactly. about getting principal back as ridiculous as it may sound. >> david, jump in here. feels like a slow volume day again. are people waiting on some of the banks earnings because tomorrow we've, of course, got some bigies? >> waiting on earnings, but earnings expectations are very low. i think 60% to 70% of stocks will beat their estimates this quarter, and i'm going to watch for guidance over the balance of the year, maria. now you'll have three guests here who are going to be favorably disposed to the market and that makes me a little bit nervous. n
at the end of 2011 the last time we had a debt ceiling issue we saw bill rates for four week bills and three-month bills start to move up. today we had a one-month bill auction, trading on at five basis points and the auction went off at 9.5 basis points and many are attributing to anxieties and rule 2a7 from the s.e.c. which gives you rules on what kind of time frames can you have with respect to holding in the money funds and a little bit of selling today may be from that group as well....
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i think we should extend, if not end the debt ceiling issue. we should just set it aside for it through a period of time. we should tackle a sequestration then we have to do that in the next six weeks. so i hope that we don't drag this out as some people are saying and then move onto a serious serious discussion of tax reform. and entitlement issues. so i see it in a sense the opposite way. i say let's get this done, and a sequestration part in the debt ceiling the next six weeks and then move on. those who are saying let's do a triple feature both, they are the ones who would be underwriting the effort to sit down and have a serious discussion of tax reform entitlements. >> we have about two minutes left. francine. >> i have a question about itemize deductions. what's your thought on having a cap on itemize deductions that people can use for whatever they want. mark h. word whatever. >> the problem with a cab is that it has to seriously consequence, especially for charitable contributions. because a substantial portion of the charitable contri
i think we should extend, if not end the debt ceiling issue. we should just set it aside for it through a period of time. we should tackle a sequestration then we have to do that in the next six weeks. so i hope that we don't drag this out as some people are saying and then move onto a serious serious discussion of tax reform. and entitlement issues. so i see it in a sense the opposite way. i say let's get this done, and a sequestration part in the debt ceiling the next six weeks and then move...
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we've got a debt ceiling issue that the president's going to have to deal with. there are a lot of other issues the president's going to have to deal with, immigration reform. i think the president's going to have to spend time on this whether he wants to or not. >> connie mack, nice to see you. >> nice to see you. >> please tell your lovely wife we're sorry she lost all her luggage and was stuck at the airport. >> love you, honey. >> we'll get back to john berman with a look at some of the other stories ahead this morning. >>> we'll be talking about the golden globes. ben affleck didn't get nominated for an oscar, but his surprise win at the globes may be vindication. we'll have that, the other surprises, and the big snubs in a live report. >>> he's known for his role on "breaking bad," but actor steven michael casada has a new role to play, local school board member. you should know that axiron is here. the only underarm treatment for low t. that's right, the one you apply to the underarm. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can tra
we've got a debt ceiling issue that the president's going to have to deal with. there are a lot of other issues the president's going to have to deal with, immigration reform. i think the president's going to have to spend time on this whether he wants to or not. >> connie mack, nice to see you. >> nice to see you. >> please tell your lovely wife we're sorry she lost all her luggage and was stuck at the airport. >> love you, honey. >> we'll get back to john berman...
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the debt ceiling increase was seen as a procedure and a very partisan vote then but not something you were reporting on for weeks and months like we have in 2011 then and now on the debt ceiling debate and, of course, what happened in 2011 was a loss to the nation's credit rating. there's big differences between 2006 and now. >> and also, to factor in with the differences you pointed out is how much the president has offered in negotiations. as far as cutting spending, not as if it's been a zero sum game from the white house regarding the nation's spending problem and an acknowledgment of that. >> one of the messages president obama is trying to get across today how much is cut in spending, whether it was in that 2011 debt ceiling agreement in the budget control act, whether it was also the revenue that was increased with the end of the fiscal cliff talks that we had right at the beginning of the new year, tamron. so, president obama said, look, we have really cut a lot of spending. there's more that he would like to be able to do but that it would be ludicrous to suggest there's no s
the debt ceiling increase was seen as a procedure and a very partisan vote then but not something you were reporting on for weeks and months like we have in 2011 then and now on the debt ceiling debate and, of course, what happened in 2011 was a loss to the nation's credit rating. there's big differences between 2006 and now. >> and also, to factor in with the differences you pointed out is how much the president has offered in negotiations. as far as cutting spending, not as if it's been...
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how do you think lincoln would handle gun control or the debt ceiling or a whole range of other issues that the current president -- >> look, martin, du h, lincoln would agree with me on everything. this is the unmistakable mandate of history. we all know this. >> right. thank you very much. thomas frank, thank you. >>> next, the president may be one step closer to getting his man. but first, sue herera has the cnbc market wrap. good afternoon. >> good to see you, martin. let's check in on how wall street finished today's trading session. it was a volatile trading day and the dow jones managed to gain 27 points. the s&p gained just under 2 points on the trading session. and the nasdaq with a drag from face boonk to the downside finished down 6.75 points. that's it from cnbc. we are first in business worldwide. martin is back after a quick break. [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaura
how do you think lincoln would handle gun control or the debt ceiling or a whole range of other issues that the current president -- >> look, martin, du h, lincoln would agree with me on everything. this is the unmistakable mandate of history. we all know this. >> right. thank you very much. thomas frank, thank you. >>> next, the president may be one step closer to getting his man. but first, sue herera has the cnbc market wrap. good afternoon. >> good to see you,...
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ceiling debate go out? john boehner promised he will not bring a bill to the floor that does not have a majority of support of republicans. >> i'm not aware of that per se, i would refer you to his office. >> congressman, thank you. >> you're welcome. >>> still ahead, coca-cola says they are trying to fight obesity with a new ad they've released. is it thinking ahead about their own industry? a panel will talk about that straight ahead. you're watching "starting point," back in a moment. with the bankamericard cash rewards credit card. earn 1% cash back everywhere, every time. [ both ] 2% back on groceries. [ all ] 3% on gas. no hoops to jump through. i earn more cash back on the things i buy the most. [ woman ] it's as easy as... one! -two. -[ all ] three! [ male announcer ] the bankamericard cash rewards credit card. apply online or at a bank of america near you. i had[ designer ]eeling enough of just covering upewards credit card. my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. i decided enough is enough. ♪ [
ceiling debate go out? john boehner promised he will not bring a bill to the floor that does not have a majority of support of republicans. >> i'm not aware of that per se, i would refer you to his office. >> congressman, thank you. >> you're welcome. >>> still ahead, coca-cola says they are trying to fight obesity with a new ad they've released. is it thinking ahead about their own industry? a panel will talk about that straight ahead. you're watching "starting...
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but lawmakers have been occupied with the fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling, and other pressing issues. and finally radio shack is ending its mobile phone partnership with target. the venture has been unprofitable and radio shack has been unable to negotiate more favorable terms. >>> as you know, the house is set to vote today on a $51 billion superstorm sandy package that has already turned in to a bitter battle over spending. joining us now is congressman frank pallone, who represents the sixth district of new jersey, one of the hardest-hit areas of the jersey shore during the late october storm. and congressman, thank you for being here. this was a late october storm. we are now in january. this is still going back and forth. what's happened? >> well, unfortunately, the package was delayed. it was passed in the senate just before new year's, but then the house speaker refused to take it up, and you know, we were very critical of that, because the bill could have been passed in the house and become law with the president's signature and we'd be in the rebuilding process for the jersey
but lawmakers have been occupied with the fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling, and other pressing issues. and finally radio shack is ending its mobile phone partnership with target. the venture has been unprofitable and radio shack has been unable to negotiate more favorable terms. >>> as you know, the house is set to vote today on a $51 billion superstorm sandy package that has already turned in to a bitter battle over spending. joining us now is congressman frank pallone, who represents...
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okay, charles, start with the debt ceiling talk. what you heard from the president. >> the tone was remarkable. he talk about the republicans being suspicious of the social security and medicare by the oldest saw that you could hear. then he added making sure empovrished children get food. that's over the top. he said i love to hang out with a congressional picnic at these people who want to starve america's chirp. interesting ini havation. then he went over and over on the debt ceiling and he must have gone through the same idea 15 times. saying this is about honoring the obligation and paying the bills we have already incured. he raised the debt ceiling on how to depend on the ongoing financial assistance from the foreign country to finance the reckless, fiscal pollty. the point of raising the debt ceiling is to allow to us borrow. he talked about the debt ceiling a dozen times. not once did he use the word "borrow." that means we are going to continue to borrow for every dollar the government spend, only 60 cents of it come from
okay, charles, start with the debt ceiling talk. what you heard from the president. >> the tone was remarkable. he talk about the republicans being suspicious of the social security and medicare by the oldest saw that you could hear. then he added making sure empovrished children get food. that's over the top. he said i love to hang out with a congressional picnic at these people who want to starve america's chirp. interesting ini havation. then he went over and over on the debt ceiling...
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and so you have this fight over the debt ceiling, but it is about bigger issues. the debt ceiling has nothing to do with immigration reform, nothing to do with the proposals on gun control, nothing to do with anything else the president might want to do in his second term, but guess what, it does affect the climate in washington. and the fact that he does not have a more trusting, even a private back channel relationship with the key republican leaders is one of the -- one of the reasons and they had responsibility too, i'm not putting it all on the president it a washington crisis if you will, a trust deficit. it is one of the reasons -- >> mitch mcconnell talking. >> so you have to have the vice president go to the senate republican leader, two guys -- they're not best of friends. trust me. i know them both. they're not best of friends. they do trust each other. mitch mcconnell knows if joe biden gives him his word, it is good. we need more of that in washington, not less. >> let me ask you, since i have you, something else the president mentioned, asked, of cou
and so you have this fight over the debt ceiling, but it is about bigger issues. the debt ceiling has nothing to do with immigration reform, nothing to do with the proposals on gun control, nothing to do with anything else the president might want to do in his second term, but guess what, it does affect the climate in washington. and the fact that he does not have a more trusting, even a private back channel relationship with the key republican leaders is one of the -- one of the reasons and...
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these are very fundamental issues. same with the debt ceiling. it's a very fundamental sense of how big the government should be. both of those are going to be very hard fought and they're going to be hard fought, as you say, at exactly the same time. >> thanks so much. eamon javers for us outside the white house reacting to those proposals today from the president. >>> when we come back from a short break, we'll consider the financial fallout from the president's announcement today. certainly a lot of publicly traded companies that may be impacted as a result of all of this. >>> we're also going to speak with some market mavens, if you will. talk about the stock market and action there. bill nygren, many of you know him. he'll give you stock picks you'll certainly want to hear. rick reeder, one of the best bond guys on the street is talking stocks today. you'll certainly want to hear what his thoughts are there. then we're going to cover all of the big stock stories of this busy day. whether it's facebook, the blowout earnings from goldman sachs
these are very fundamental issues. same with the debt ceiling. it's a very fundamental sense of how big the government should be. both of those are going to be very hard fought and they're going to be hard fought, as you say, at exactly the same time. >> thanks so much. eamon javers for us outside the white house reacting to those proposals today from the president. >>> when we come back from a short break, we'll consider the financial fallout from the president's announcement...
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. >> even though we have been through this with the debt ceiling issue, what exactly would happen if congress did got raised the debt ceiling in what makes it a dangerous option of? >> our credit rating would go down and how would we pay the bills? how would we pay social security? how would be paid veterans? >> there is no money? >> the republicans say pick and choose. so let's have a vote. who do we pack? -- pick? the president was right to say, in my judgment, to the republicans, don't do it. you are playing with fire. >> why? why are we playing with fire? what would happen? >> those are two different questions. the republicans have an idea. we have been through this with a credit rating. they know what would happen so they say pick and choose. the president made clear we're not talking about future expenses but paying for what congress has voted. pick and choose is something at this point* is theoretical but will become very real without spelling out. you will not pay soldiers or send out social security checks are paid defense contractors? that is what is involved. >> of democra
. >> even though we have been through this with the debt ceiling issue, what exactly would happen if congress did got raised the debt ceiling in what makes it a dangerous option of? >> our credit rating would go down and how would we pay the bills? how would we pay social security? how would be paid veterans? >> there is no money? >> the republicans say pick and choose. so let's have a vote. who do we pack? -- pick? the president was right to say, in my judgment, to the...
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we know about the confirmation hearing issues and then the fiscal, the debt ceiling which is fast approaching as well. >> definitely that dance card is getting filled up pretty quickly so early in the year and he hasn't even been inaugurated. also in that article, senator marco rubio preparing his own version of the d.r.e.a.m. act. he discussed how republicans could face some pushback from latinos because of their stance on immigration reform. he said this, quote. we are going to have a struggle speaking to a whole segment of the population about our principles of limited government and free enterprise if they think we don't want them here, alluding to those who might benefit from the d.r.e.a.m. act. so republicans have their own pr campaign to conduct with latinos on immigration reform, but how is the president going to combat republicans who want to see a more piece meal approach as we move forward here? >> reporter: i think we've seen the way the president has handled other recent challenges from his republican opposition when you consider just the fiscal cliff hanger as it were with campa
we know about the confirmation hearing issues and then the fiscal, the debt ceiling which is fast approaching as well. >> definitely that dance card is getting filled up pretty quickly so early in the year and he hasn't even been inaugurated. also in that article, senator marco rubio preparing his own version of the d.r.e.a.m. act. he discussed how republicans could face some pushback from latinos because of their stance on immigration reform. he said this, quote. we are going to have a...
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goes on in retreat announces essentially he will retreat on the debt ceiling issue. so what issue will they draw the line in the sand on, do you think? >> the sequestration on march 1, president obama doesn't get serious about spending and entitlement reform, ashley. $85 billion will be cut out of next year's budget that will be extraordinarily bad for the department of defense the worst people on medicare, etc. the president keeps talking and not acting, the consequences are going to get every single american. the march 1 deadline is a good deadline. ashley: to the republicans caved because they realized they couldn't win that battle? >> yes. they heard from their constituents and people generally reported, supportive of candidates, saying generally there is no way you can't raise the debt ceiling because it is a risk and if republicans want to keep playing this, they would have to rally against them, would have tanked and taken the blame. ashley: didn't the g.o.p. have a good point? what does that say to the hard-working taxpayers? >> that same interview you showed
goes on in retreat announces essentially he will retreat on the debt ceiling issue. so what issue will they draw the line in the sand on, do you think? >> the sequestration on march 1, president obama doesn't get serious about spending and entitlement reform, ashley. $85 billion will be cut out of next year's budget that will be extraordinarily bad for the department of defense the worst people on medicare, etc. the president keeps talking and not acting, the consequences are going to get...
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ceiling issue. i know you've said you're not negotiating on it. your administration has ruled out the various ideas that have been out there, the 14th amendment, but just this morning, one of the house democratic leaders, jim clyburn asked you to use the 14th amendment, and even said sometimes that's what it takes. he brought up the emancipation proclamation saying it took executive action when congress wouldn't act and he compared the debt ceiling to that. so are you considering a plan "b"? and if not, why not? >> well, chuck, the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. and so, there's a very simple solution to this -- congress authorizes us to pay our bills. now, if the house and the senate want to give me the authority so that they don't have to take these tough votes, if they want to put the responsibility on me to raise the debt ceiling, i'll happily take it. mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, had a proposal like that last year, and
ceiling issue. i know you've said you're not negotiating on it. your administration has ruled out the various ideas that have been out there, the 14th amendment, but just this morning, one of the house democratic leaders, jim clyburn asked you to use the 14th amendment, and even said sometimes that's what it takes. he brought up the emancipation proclamation saying it took executive action when congress wouldn't act and he compared the debt ceiling to that. so are you considering a plan...
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the drama in waington on a different issue. the nation's debt. we hit the ceiling and the government is using accounting tricks to pay the bills and top republican leaderships say they may vote in favor of a three month extension without requirements to cut government spending that. is according to eric cantor who said the vote could happen next week. it would mark a hudge about face for congressional republicans who said our government is addicted to spending . we turn to our new polling and show you most americans believe we have a spending problem. a whopping 83 percent said that government spending is out of control. compared to 62 percent in 2009 . majority of you scene percent favor raising the debt ceiling but the increase must be tied to major spending cuts. only 23 percent think it should be raised with no strings attached. that is what the republicans are considering. stay withs numbers just a moment now. we want to show you president obama will begin the second term with much less support than he had four years ago. the president's app
the drama in waington on a different issue. the nation's debt. we hit the ceiling and the government is using accounting tricks to pay the bills and top republican leaderships say they may vote in favor of a three month extension without requirements to cut government spending that. is according to eric cantor who said the vote could happen next week. it would mark a hudge about face for congressional republicans who said our government is addicted to spending . we turn to our new polling and...
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ceiling issue so my recommendation with investors is that at this point in time, it's premature to react to those comments, even though they may be troubling to all of us. let's see how it unfolds before you begin making any investment moves based on a potential tax hike. cheryl: well, yeah. talking about more tax revenue coming in, i'm sorry, but ears perk up. let's talk about the specific company that you like on your radar, and there's a couple reasons. first and foremost, they doubled the dividend on monday. the company doing well financially, at the same time, dividend payers like a ford, joe, could, again, fall out of investor payer. do you stick by ford if the tax fight continues? >> yes, because beyond the dividend, it's an attractive stock. auto industry as a whole, we think, has still tremendous upside potential since it bottomed out in 2009, it continues to improve. ford, specifically, streamlined down to lincoln and ford models. they have a ways to go yet, but they are really looking to compete head on in the united states with toyota, with the fuel efficient products like fu
ceiling issue so my recommendation with investors is that at this point in time, it's premature to react to those comments, even though they may be troubling to all of us. let's see how it unfolds before you begin making any investment moves based on a potential tax hike. cheryl: well, yeah. talking about more tax revenue coming in, i'm sorry, but ears perk up. let's talk about the specific company that you like on your radar, and there's a couple reasons. first and foremost, they doubled the...
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on the debt ceiling, it made no sense to risk the full faith and credit of the united states for whatever agenda you have. the business community felt that. the public felt that. and so the fact that they have backed off both -- not only the idea that we should hold debt ceiling hostage, but second that it shouldn't be one for one cuts, you know, boehner used to say that, the house proposal doesn't say that, dollar in cutting for every dollar in raising the debt ceiling. >> would you support a short-term measure to force you to pass a budget? >> i think it should be longer because we don't want to play fiscal cliff every three months. but it's a positive step. >> you never get a clean debt ceiling raise. >> yes, you should. >> that's not a question of whether you should. but historically it's not been the case. >> mitch mcconnell proposed it two years ago and we passed it. but let me say this on the budget. we democrats have always intended to do a budget this year. for two reasons. first, it is not true that we haven't had budget control in effect over the last several years. the budget
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and that's what we see being done with the whole issue of the debt ceiling. for things we did we borrowed money. in fact, republicans and democrats alike passed these budgets and now republicans are saying they don't want to pay for the thing that is they voted for in these previous budgets. that to me is not the way you run government once again and to allow someone to play political mischief, to put preconditions on a balanced deal by saying we're going to ask for a ransom devastating cuts to social security and medicare, in order to cover costs to things like the bush tax cuts, unpaid for wars in iraq and afghanistan don't make sense. so i agree with the president. the american people should not be held hostage with this game of using the debt ceiling as a way to try to extract what you couldn't get through the ballot box. and i would urge the president to move forward and continue to have the economy grow, let the government move forward. don't let this be a way that anyone in congress tries to manipulate the process. >> so you're leaving options on the t
and that's what we see being done with the whole issue of the debt ceiling. for things we did we borrowed money. in fact, republicans and democrats alike passed these budgets and now republicans are saying they don't want to pay for the thing that is they voted for in these previous budgets. that to me is not the way you run government once again and to allow someone to play political mischief, to put preconditions on a balanced deal by saying we're going to ask for a ransom devastating cuts to...
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there's the debt ceiling, whether or not to raise the debt ceiling. some are talking about shutting the government down when the continuing resolution that authorizes spending for this government runs out, that he would negotiate then on this whole issue of spending cuts and new revenue. and if you cannot get a deal, then you let the government shutdown. some republicans are laying the groundwork for that. then you have the sequestration that was delayed under the fiscal cliff deal. so there are more than one battle happening. where do you think the negotiations should take place? should be the debt ceiling or the continuing resolution to fund the government or sequestration? caller: the continuing revolution to keep the government going -- resolution. there are many departments we don't need. i was showing my grandchildr the debt clock, telling him how much money he would know when he becomes a taxpayer. he said he does not want to become a taxpayer. this is taxation without representation. they have to get this under control. they need a dyiet. host
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>> reporter: house speaker john boehner says the american do not support raising the debt ceiling without cutting spending at the same time. boehner calls the debt an anchor on our economy. here's the leading senate republican, making his point. >> it's sort of like you have a kid who exceeds the credit card limit. you tear up the credit card, but you look at the spending. the republicans are willing to pay for past bills. these are about future bills. the president is missing the point that we are on an unsustainable path. >> reporter: portman acknowledges the need to raise the debt ceiling, but he supports the context of getting a handle on the spenning. >> shepard: this is disaster relief for victims of super storm sand gee right. we have had plenty of lawmakers saying we need to get a handle on government spending, but not when people are waiting for major disaster relief money. a key new jersey democrat is saying people from new york, new jersey and connecticut pay their fair share. three state, 16% of the taxes. you ask the question: who suffered because of super storm sandy? certai
>> reporter: house speaker john boehner says the american do not support raising the debt ceiling without cutting spending at the same time. boehner calls the debt an anchor on our economy. here's the leading senate republican, making his point. >> it's sort of like you have a kid who exceeds the credit card limit. you tear up the credit card, but you look at the spending. the republicans are willing to pay for past bills. these are about future bills. the president is missing the...
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it was a very slow solution to the debt ceiling in august of 2011 that got the u.s. downgraded last time. so it's very important. all these issues are important, but it's very, very important that congress take necessary action to raise the debt ceiling to avoid a situation where our government does not pay its bills. >> a number of people have expressed concern about how much of the challenges actually were addressed in the deal. it went part of the way, as you mentioned. but it leaves a number of issues still on the table and traditional negotiations are looming. would you characterize that as an additional cliff that is facing us? or do you think it is not as concerning as it was when you raised the term initially? >> as i said, the fiscal cliff, if allowed to take place, would have probably created a recession this year. a good bit of that has been addressed. nevertheless, we still have a fairly restrictive set of fiscal policies now. it is estimated that federal fiscal policy will contract from real gdp growth something on the order of 1% to 1.5% this year, a si
it was a very slow solution to the debt ceiling in august of 2011 that got the u.s. downgraded last time. so it's very important. all these issues are important, but it's very, very important that congress take necessary action to raise the debt ceiling to avoid a situation where our government does not pay its bills. >> a number of people have expressed concern about how much of the challenges actually were addressed in the deal. it went part of the way, as you mentioned. but it leaves a...
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jenna: right now house democrats are announcing a new plan to eliminate the debt ceiling, claiming the gop is exploiting the issue for political gain. doug mckelway is live in washington with more on the democratic plan and the road ahead. hi, doug. >> reporter: hi, jenna. this democratic plan in a nutshell would basically do away with the statute that calls for the debt ceiling in the first place, allowing spending in effect to go up and up and up without the artificial cap that the debt ceiling is indeed. democrats are explaining this in a press conference right now as we speak, so we'll be learning a lot more about it as the day progresses. republicans obviously deeply opposed to this thing, fearful that democrats will indeed use it to allow spending to go up and up. here is senator john barrasso speaking on fox news this morning. >> we have a spending problem in this country. people all across the country know it. they know it in wyoming. families have to balance their budget every year. many states do. we do in wyoming. it is time for the senate and the house and the president to
jenna: right now house democrats are announcing a new plan to eliminate the debt ceiling, claiming the gop is exploiting the issue for political gain. doug mckelway is live in washington with more on the democratic plan and the road ahead. hi, doug. >> reporter: hi, jenna. this democratic plan in a nutshell would basically do away with the statute that calls for the debt ceiling in the first place, allowing spending in effect to go up and up and up without the artificial cap that the debt...
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find out what he has to say now as we're edging closer and closer to that debt ceiling. >>> later, no way to get to work equals no job. a new study shows 3.5 million jobs will be lost if we don't start rebuilding america's infrastructure, today. we'll debate the high-stakes issue affecting all of us in the back half of the program. don't miss it. back in a moment. what are you doing? nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just...